Getting my Hands Dirty with Cam Ogilvie

Show Notes

Today, I sat down with Cam Ogilvie, who I've been fortunate enough to spend the day at work with, in the field, and learned from him and what he does. Now, I get to sit down and discuss it with him in my living room. And so we had a great conversation about soil health and what that means to us as a society.  

We got to talk about so many interesting things and did it all in a new timeframe of 30 minutes. I hope the 30 minutes is a great time for you. It's a nice little time for me, it makes editing a lot shorter. We got a lot in there in 30 minutes. I think you'll enjoy it.  

Some of the topics we covered are: Soil health monitoring, What is soil health?, How do you teach about soil health?  Not letting perfect be the enemy of good, What's soil health going to look like in the not-so-distant future, and of course the definition of dirt versus soil.  What does it mean?  

Thank you so much for tuning in and I'll let you jump into the episode!

00:25 - What is Soil Health Monitoring? 

2:47 - How do you get people to care about soil?

5:04 - How did Cam get interested in Soil work?

8:40 - Is our relationship with soil based on reciprocity?

11:35 - Teaching to rejuvenate the soil

13:12 - Grower’s moment of discovery

17:25 - Favorite part of the job

19:11 - Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good

21:24 - Soil Health in the Not-so-distant future

25:50 - Soil Efficiency

28:30 - Definition of Dirt vs Soil

29:35 - Take Away


Mentioned Resources

5:44 - Cry, The Beloved Country - Allan Paton

19:22 - Bird by Bird: Some Instructions on Writing and Life - Anne Lamott

20:29 - The Effectiveness Equation

30:35 - SoilHealthInstitute.org

30:47 - Soilsatguelph.ca